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[EP-tech] {Suspected SPAM} Re: AW: DOI import support

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Ok, but import from DOI should always works, as in other platforms. Also
because looking at a DOI, it is not simple to know if it cames from
Crossref or Datacite, so from the point of view of the user this is a
not working feature.

Are there external services that returns DOI metadata for every provider?

This is the situation:

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitation.crosscite.org%2Fdocs.html&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=esGzLqFnY3uK0FDLsyhgwz5yA6j0cpG%2BZbOIlar8qfc%3D&reserved=0

maybe we could switch to bibtex using content negotiation?


Il 19/06/23 09:29, David R Newman ha scritto:

Hi Yuri and Jens,

I think if the issue is retrieving metadata from CrossRef, then there
is not much that can be done from an EPrints perspective. In the most
recent version of the DOI import plugin we have switched to using the
unixref format [1] (e.g.
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.crossref.org%2Fopenurl%2F%3Fpid%3Damail%40mail.com%26noredirect%3Dtrue%26format%3Dunixref%26id%3Ddoi%3A10.5281%2Fzenodo.7598185&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=R7n8xer%2FUff20nFf%2Fbko4%2BcUVUJqf99u1PnBkDr3%2FdA%3D&reserved=0
).  This similarly returns no metadata and in fact the error message
is even more vague than the message you received. However, when I
request the DOI you provide in the EPrints import plugin, I get an
unhelpful error message.  Therefore, at least this DOI is useful to
help improve the error output from an EPrints perspective, so it can
better explains the error.

Regards

David Newman

[1]
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.crossref.org%2Fdocumentation%2Fretrieve-metadata%2Fxml-output-formats%2Funixref-query-output-format%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5N8QROHlCrf%2FKuvQ%2F2%2FpCBJq9mSpZAqbbr%2BWWju7jts%3D&reserved=0

On 19/06/2023 8:14 am, Yuri wrote:

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on:

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.crossref.org%2Fopenurl%2F%3Fpid%3Damail%40mail.com%26noredirect%3Dtrue%26id%3Ddoi%3A10.5281%2Fzenodo.7598185&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KctPMSxHRyDDn%2BNrYqUoQrbjvOj2Zjhu8lrdvjDBiJ8%3D&reserved=0


I get

query status="unresolved" fl_count="0"

but it resolves:

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.crossref.org%2Fopenurl%2F%3Fpid%3Damail%40mail.com%26%26id%3Ddoi%3A10.5281%2Fzenodo.7598185&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=S8iiV%2FI8fGQsrC3ElsFDshO80MgdfYHABz%2FywmbeSUM%3D&reserved=0


So the problem is on getting the metadata. There are a lot of metadata
format for DOIs (Crossref, Datacite...), so maybe DOIs without crossref
format cannot be imported?


Il 19/06/23 08:53, Jens Witzel ha scritto:

Dear all,

I don't know if it has to do with this, but we have also received
feedback from some submitters in the last few days that certain DOIs
cannot be imported even though they are listed at Crossref.

A few tests later we found out that there are differences between:

- https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.crossref.org%2Fopenurl%2F%3Fpid%3Dxxxx%26id%3Ddoi%3Ayyyy&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jp%2Bpnnmh3KJrLUSD62j8X0wVPoqRDS1L%2BQCcn%2FMCBA0%3D&reserved=0 and
- https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.crossref.org%2Fworks%2Fyyyy%3Fmailto%3Dzzzzz&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QpUKNz7BNvQR3lgxqphT9SYPU5zIBHG3XCyNVrAq4i0%3D&reserved=0

exist. A few days both URLs delivered again and we put this on hold.
Should we inform Crossref about this?

Cheers
  Jens