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Re: [EP-tech] Modification of language by script

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Hi Jens,

I agree, we do not foresee a 100% accurate method. So either we accept that there will
be some margin of error, or we will need to introduce some human intervention for
the most "important" cases, or for what is doable manually.

Cheers,

Andras

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Holl András
informatikai főigazgató-helyettes / deputy director (IT)
MTA Könyvtár és Információs Központ / MTA Library and Information Centre


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jens Witzel" <jens.witzel@uzh.ch>
To: "eprints-tech" <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, "John Salter" <J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk>, "holl andras" <holl.andras@konyvtar.mta.hu>
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January, 2023 10:24:27
Subject: AW: Modification of language by script

Hey Andras

Investigating the language: once upon a time, not so long ago (in 2019) ... we wanted to improve the quality of our language setting. The reason was, that we'd made our language multi field as a mandatory field very late, so earlier eprints did not have any submitter driven info and somehow we found out, that submitters sometimes choose the default without thinking about it.

Therefor we were searching an automatic way and tried out Perl-Modul lingua. We analysed title and abstract. Nobody should be suprised, that lingua did not always hit the bull's eye ;-)

Some statistics:
- 102074 Eprints in ZORA (early 2019)
- 4939 without language_mult
- 3138 times lingua differs from submitters opinion on abstract
- 11038 times lingua differs from submitters opinion on title

We stopped investigation and automatic setting after a short discussion...

Cheers
  Jens
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Jens Witzel
Zentrale Informatik
Universität Zürich
Stampfenbachstrasse 73
CH-8006 Zürich

mail:  jens.witzel@uzh.ch
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Von: eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Im Auftrag von John Salter via Eprints-tech
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2023 09:59
An: András Holl <holl.andras@konyvtar.mta.hu>
Cc: eprints-tech <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Betreff: Re: [EP-tech] Modification of language by script

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Hi András,
Just had an additional thought...

If you have full-text indexing turned on for your repository, there might be useful stuff in the 'indexcodes.txt' documents that are generated from the PDFs.

This may already have extracted words from the PDF that can be fed in to the language-identification tool that you use to check the title.

The indexcodes files should be in a directory in the EPrint folder e.g. for EPrintID 56, the folder is:
        EPRINTS_ROOT/archives/ARCHIVE_ID/documents/disk0/00/00/00/56/
The sub folders may look like this:
        01/Document.pdf
        02/lightbox.jpg <-- thumbnails
        03/preview.jpg
        04/medium.jpg
        05/small.jpg
        06/indexcodes.txt    <---- this file might be useful to look at!
        revisions/ (contains multiple XML files)

The order of the subdirectories might be different - depending on what the indexer processed first - thumbnails or indexing.

You can get the indexcodes document from the original using something like this ($doc is the 'original' document, from e.g. $eprint->get_all_documents):
        my $index_doc = $doc->search_related( "isIndexCodesVersionOf" )->item( 0 );
        if( defined $index_doc )
        {
            # get the filestream and send contents to the language identifier
        }

There are some caveats to the indexcodes data:
- I think that the thumbnails/indexcodes are not normally generated until an item is live in the repository
- the words may be 'stemmed' - removing some word-endings 's', 'ing' type stuff.

Not sure if that's useful or not - thought it was worth sharing in case!

Cheers,
John

-----Original Message-----
From: András Holl [mailto:holl.andras@konyvtar.mta.hu]
Sent: 17 January 2023 10:10
To: John Salter <J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk>
Cc: eprints-tech <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Modification of language by script



Dear John,

Yes, there are some EPrints with multiple documents, and they might be of different language.
And yes, I do want to process everything.

However, not necessarily with the same tool. I have already have scripts for examining the language settings, and also some tools for finding out what the language is. (At the moment what I do is the following: get the title, run it through a spell checker with a given dictionary, and find out the percentage of the known words in the title. This checks in one step whether the first hypothesis [the language is Hungarian] is true or not. Later I might want to process the full text layer of the PDF. Next I might repeat the same with the next choice of language, say, English.)

Also, I might do the simple cases (only one document) first.

So fix_language might be jut the thing I need - I am looking at it.

Thank You!

András

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Salter" <J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk>
To: "holl andras" <holl.andras@konyvtar.mta.hu>
Cc: "eprints-tech" <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, 17 January, 2023 10:35:06
Subject: RE: Modification of language by script

Hi András,
Do some EPrints have multiple documents, and can those documents be in different languages?

It sounds like you want to process everything, rather than searching for specific documents/EPrints to update.

>From the details in these pages:
- https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.eprints.org%2Fw%2FAPI%3AEPrints%2FDataSet&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C0302b137bc6640b26bb008daf937785e%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638096313883161618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=CCWELMmL7TpCer2etUpHbHHKxX9%2FfDxrZe73nF60e0g%3D&reserved=0
- https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.eprints.org%2Fw%2FAPI%3AEPrints%2FList&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C0302b137bc6640b26bb008daf937785e%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638096313883161618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=B87ihRkUWkQTp5tN%2BNGWBzqOdW27r%2BSK8Bk33kkX8qM%3D&reserved=0

I would start with something like this:
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fjesusbagpuss%2Fa8cc8c5328aa6e33e068609bc6f3d6ca&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C0302b137bc6640b26bb008daf937785e%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638096313883161618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QCA6T7XBh7Unq6JqrZdhzueJDSmmNy%2FIIxQtvcb9GkA%3D&reserved=0

The bits you need to work out are in the 'process_eprint' function:
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fjesusbagpuss%2Fa8cc8c5328aa6e33e068609bc6f3d6ca%23file-fix_language-L78&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C0302b137bc6640b26bb008daf937785e%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638096313883161618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WOa3GyvHt%2FjTD3ZW3iI9bFwIlWfr1zAo%2FFx%2F72gT73I%3D&reserved=0 - how to calculate the language based on the EPrint details
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fjesusbagpuss%2Fa8cc8c5328aa6e33e068609bc6f3d6ca%23file-fix_language-L86&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C0302b137bc6640b26bb008daf937785e%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638096313883161618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Tw9BXzTTODxqTR6e3A5aW8rvcqwAI7vWI%2BRjH2okkpQ%3D&reserved=0 - how to calculate the language from the document

As-is, the script will not change anything. The 'commit' lines are commented out of safety.
It also references a field that might not exist (eprint.language).

You may want to check the existing setting for the language of the document before updating it.
If you have EPrints with multiple documents attached, you might want to do something like this:
        $eprint->set_under_construction(1);
        ... update (commit) multiple doc changes
        $eprint->set_under_construction(0);
        $eprint->commit;
This means that the EPrint will have one new revision, rather than a revision for each document updated.

Let me know if that helps at all!

Cheers,
John


- you may want t


-----Original Message-----
From: András Holl [mailto:holl.andras@konyvtar.mta.hu]
Sent: 16 January 2023 12:05
To: John Salter <J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk>
Cc: eprints-tech <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Modification of language by script



Dear John,

I am using EPrints 3.3.15. So far, the scripts for 3.2 did work for me.

Since we have installed EPrints (around 2008), the language field for the documents have been hidden. For each uploaded documents EPrints used the language settings of the browser as a guess for the language of a document, and we did not care.

Now we have embarked upon a text mining project, and suddenly it become important what the language is. I will process the content of the repository (some 200k items), and find out what the language is, based first on the language of the title, and then maybe the language of the text layer of the PDFs.

But when I know (or have a reasonable guess), I might try to set the language of the EPrint document.

With kind regards,

Andras Holl

--
Holl András
informatikai főigazgató-helyettes / deputy director (IT) MTA Könyvtár és Információs Központ / MTA Library and Information Centre

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Salter" <J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk>
To: "eprints-tech" <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, "holl andras" <holl.andras@konyvtar.mta.hu>
Sent: Monday, 16 January, 2023 12:37:30
Subject: RE: Modification of language by script

Hi András,
Which version of EPrints are you using?

The scripts you found were written against EPrints 3.2, so might not work if you are using EPrints 3.3 or 3.4.

How do you determine which documents need the language field to be updated?
Is there a field at the EPrint, or at the Document level that you need to search for, to work out which ones, or do you have a list of IDs, or something similar?

Cheers,
John


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From: eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk [mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk] On Behalf Of András Holl via Eprints-tech
Sent: 13 January 2023 12:51
To: eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Subject: [EP-tech] Modification of language by script

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Dear All,

I would like to modify language settings of a document in a given EPrint by a script.

How should I do it, with the script search_and_modify.pl found at
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eprints.org%2Fservices%2Ftraining%2Fresources%2Fscripts%2Feprints3_2%2Fbin%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C0302b137bc6640b26bb008daf937785e%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638096313883161618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Stf0RFJVrEgC1UJn1AYfDdecgRfUp8jrYuhusPHQ0C0%3D&reserved=0 ?

With kind regards,

András Holl

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