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Re: [EP-tech] Antwort: RE: Hyperauthorship

To: "eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Christöpher Gutteridge <totl@soton.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [EP-tech] Antwort: RE: Hyperauthorship
From: "Newman D.R." <drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:47:33 +0000
Hi Chris and other interested parties,

Following up on this, I have now pushed the back to eprints3.4 GitHub
[1] after I had one of my colleagues code review it.  I have also added
integration with generate/refresh views.  I have tried to make this
behaviour as unobtrusive as possible.

Assuming you have enabled citation caching, epadmin refresh_views and
refresh_abstracts will suggest that you run refresh_citations if you
have changed any of the citation files.  If you run generate_abstracts,
it will clear all citations for the eprints that you are regenerating
abstracts for and for generate_views I have added a --refreshcitations,
which will expire all citation caches if you use this flag.

This is not quite ideal but I am trying to limit the chances of people
having issues because they do not realise they need to clear citation
caches, whilst not losing the benefit of the caches because it is too
easy to trash them by accident.

Regards

David Newman

[1] https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Feprints%2Feprints3.4%2Fcommit%2F2d11e7c2debbc3d9d7adad&amp;data=01%7C01%7C%7C0efa84d44c66465c4cbb08d706cf7d95%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&amp;sdata=QJ2nKzNPW8xqB9kuunfe7krc4CQL3i4K44iEvD37yw4%3D&amp;reserved=0
f1d2ad93503c126b9b

On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 16:35 +0000, Newman D.R. via Eprints-tech wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I have made the changes you suggested and they seem to be working
> will push back to GitHub once I have had a chance to fully review
> them.  I have added something to perl_lib/EPrints/Citation/EPC.pm
> that looks out for the start of a citation that looks like this:
>
> <cite:citation xmlns:xhtml="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F1999%2Fxhtml&amp;data=01%7C01%7C%7C0efa84d44c66465c4cbb08d706cf7d95%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&amp;sdata=J9gbj%2Bo3VcpmEx57FD55dOXDtu%2F10SOpm4ls1N6VQFI%3D&amp;reserved=0";
> xmlns="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Feprints.org%2Fep3%2Fcontrol&amp;data=01%7C01%7C%7C0efa84d44c66465c4cbb08d706cf7d95%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&amp;sdata=rVge5Df72PdIt9Yayf1r88JicdV6%2B%2BOtqrrC55RL57c%3D&amp;reserved=0";
> xmlns:cite="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Feprints.org%2Fep3%2Fcitation&amp;data=01%7C01%7C%7C0efa84d44c66465c4cbb08d706cf7d95%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&amp;sdata=EfL4qDQSdHwBF7gdLfJiBcuEEZJHwkZWWI%2FztZfeBIw%3D&amp;reserved=0"; cite:disable-
> caching="yes">
>
> This is very much like the code already present that looks for trim-
> whitespace.
>
> Regards
>
> David Newman
>
> On Wed, 2019-06-05 at 10:20 +0000, Newman D.R. via Eprints-tech
> wrote:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > If it is preloaded this is less of an issue, I will have a look to
> > see
> > how such a variable could be stored as part of this preload.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > David Newman
> >
> > On Wed, 2019-06-05 at 10:44 +0100, Christöpher Gutteridge wrote:
> > >
> > > Citation XML files are loaded in advance, so that's not an issue:
> > >
> > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2
> > > Fgit
> > > hub.com%2Feprints%2Feprints%2Fblob%2F3.3%2Fperl_lib%2FEPrints%2FR
> > > epos
> > > itory.pm%23L260&amp;data=01%7C01%7Cdrn%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C47cbfa
> > > 6d63
> > > 684db04f2f08d6e99a710b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&amp
> > > ;sda
> > > ta=hDezkbYKSdim%2FgKrTv%2BUtxByE%2BX9OWaIKBDde9t9Cr4%3D&amp;reser
> > > ved=
> > > 0
> > >
> > > You'd need to detect the flag in
> > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2
> > > Fgit
> > > hub.com%2Feprints%2Feprints%2Fblob%2F3.3%2Fperl_lib%2FEPrints%2FR
> > > epos
> > > itory.pm%23L1001&amp;data=01%7C01%7Cdrn%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C47cbf
> > > a6d6
> > > 3684db04f2f08d6e99a710b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&am
> > > p;sd
> > > ata=5rTcT9srOgaFIypGq1GUj1Y6yja0MxQ6dfckenju7ww%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > somehow.
> > >
> > > I know it feels easier to put the "no cache" config elsewhere but
> > > it
> > > really should be part of the citation file itself.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05/06/2019 10:21, Newman D.R. wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Chris,
> > > >
> > > >  From a repository admin's point of view I can see this being
> > > > the
> > > > easiest and probably most obvious way of stating it should not
> > > > be
> > > > cached.  I am just not sure how much of an impact there would
> > > > be
> > > > having
> > > > to load the citation file each time before making a decision.
> > > >  Maybe
> > > > there is something that caches this periodically (i.e. at the
> > > > start
> > > > of
> > > > when generate_views runs and when EPrints is reloaded in
> > > > Apache).
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > David Newman
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2019-05-31 at 13:46 +0100, Christöpher Gutteridge
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I would suggest that the exception should be added to the
> > > > > citation
> > > > > file.
> > > > > The issue.xml citation is part of /lib/ so can easily be
> > > > > modified
> > > > > in
> > > > > an
> > > > > upgrade, which was why that was designed that way.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 31/05/2019 13:02, Newman D.R. wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Chris,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the info.  I will look into it.  I was certainly
> > > > > > thinking
> > > > > > that citation.pl should probably be called
> > > > > > citation_caching.pl.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Contextual citations may be an interesting edge case to
> > > > > > deal
> > > > > > with.
> > > > > >   Is
> > > > > > this something that is likely will be present for all
> > > > > > modern
> > > > > > repositories or just the odd few?  I can add an exceptions
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > based
> > > > > > on DataObj type and citation name (e.g. user, eprint, etc.
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > default,
> > > > > > brief, etc.).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David Newman
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 2019-05-31 at 12:08 +0100, Christöpher Gutteridge
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would suggest maybe calling it CitationCache to make it
> > > > > > > less
> > > > > > > confusing
> > > > > > > as much of the documentation uses "citation" to refer to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > citation
> > > > > > > configuration files.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I seem to recall from when I  looked into this years ago
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > there's
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > few citations that should not be cached as they have
> > > > > > > contextual
> > > > > > > information. eg.
> > > > > > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https
> > > > > > > %3A%
> > > > > > > 2F%2
> > > > > > > Fgit
> > > > > > > hub.com%2Feprints%2Feprints%2Fblob%2F3.3%2Flib%2Fcitation
> > > > > > > s%2F
> > > > > > > epri
> > > > > > > nt%2
> > > > > > > Fissue.xml&amp;data=01%7C01%7Cdrn%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7Cdce
> > > > > > > a7f6
> > > > > > > 6450
> > > > > > > f41b
> > > > > > > 7810a08d6e5b85b53%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&
> > > > > > > amp;
> > > > > > > sdat
> > > > > > > a=Ve
> > > > > > > hZmkq%2BhGtlV2BoXyoF3Y9hn2zyBc0ki%2FcLJVyYCsA%3D&amp;rese
> > > > > > > rved
> > > > > > > =0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 31/05/2019 12:01, Newman D.R. wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As promised here is the code that I wrote for citation
> > > > > > > > caching:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=htt
> > > > > > > > ps%3
> > > > > > > > A%2F
> > > > > > > > %2Fg
> > > > > > > > ithub.com%2Feprints%2Feprints3.4%2Fcommit%2F6aedd1c2b1b
> > > > > > > > a4ce
> > > > > > > > 68fc
> > > > > > > > eb5c
> > > > > > > > da5&amp;data=01%7C01%7Cdrn%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7Cdcea7f66
> > > > > > > > 450f
> > > > > > > > 41b7
> > > > > > > > 810a
> > > > > > > > 08d6e5b85b53%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&amp
> > > > > > > > ;sda
> > > > > > > > ta=d
> > > > > > > > IoNV
> > > > > > > > ArFilGXLssfRvSqnwCLQcA7Jfc43o9I98shzGw%3D&amp;reserved=
> > > > > > > > 0
> > > > > > > > c16545a72b9d53
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You need to copy default_zero/cfg.d/citations.pl to
> > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > local
> > > > > > > > archive
> > > > > > > > and set enabled to 1.  You then need to run epadmin
> > > > > > > > update
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > create
> > > > > > > > the Citation dataset.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have found that on large browse view listing (e.g.
> > > > > > > > 400-
> > > > > > > > 500)
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > citations are already cached I get an improvement from
> > > > > > > > a 6
> > > > > > > > second
> > > > > > > > load
> > > > > > > > time to 2 seconds.  However, if the citations need
> > > > > > > > caching
> > > > > > > > before
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > browse view can be generated then the first load time
> > > > > > > > is 10
> > > > > > > > seconds.
> > > > > > > >     However, this will be a one off unless you run the
> > > > > > > > refresh_citations
> > > > > > > > epadmin command that works like refresh_abstracts but
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > citations.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please feel free to try out and ask any questions.   I
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > done
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > basic testing on it but I think it is a little way of
> > > > > > > > deploying
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > production environment.  I would want to be confident
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > citations
> > > > > > > > are always cleared when an EPrints is modified, which
> > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > the case but might be susceptible to race conditions
> > > > > > > > where
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > cache is
> > > > > > > > not cleared in time and the old cached citation is used
> > > > > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > generating a new one.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > David Newman
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 2019-05-16 at 14:35 +0000, Newman D.R. via
> > > > > > > > Eprints-
> > > > > > > > tech
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Chris,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have implemented this but it is still under testing
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > see
> > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > it speeds things up.  I will see if I can make this
> > > > > > > > > available
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > branch on GitHub at some point.  However, I seem to
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > already
> > > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > two jobs at the moment.  So doing interesting EPrints
> > > > > > > > > development
> > > > > > > > > rather than basic additional functionality and bug
> > > > > > > > > fixing
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > bit of
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > luxury time does not afford.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > David Newman
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2019-05-16 at 14:25 +0000, Christöpher
> > > > > > > > > Gutteridge
> > > > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > > Eprints-
> > > > > > > > > tech wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We should have made something long ago which can
> > > > > > > > > > cache
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > rendered
> > > > > > > > > > versions of citations and Export plugins for single
> > > > > > > > > > items,
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > invalidated the cache when records are altered or
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > config is
> > > > > > > > > > changed... would speed up everything a load.
> > > > > > > > > > (Sorry, I sketched the idea years ago and never
> > > > > > > > > > implemented
> > > > > > > > > > it)
> > > > > > > > > > On 16/05/2019 15:08, John Salter via Eprints-tech
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The database takes a big hit for OAI-PMH requests
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > include
> > > > > > > > > > > hyper-authored papers.
> > > > > > > > > > > We have a block of 100 records that contains ~10
> > > > > > > > > > > ATLAS
> > > > > > > > > > > research
> > > > > > > > > > > papers - each with 3,000+ authors.
> > > > > > > > > > > This takes a while to generate the XML response
> > > > > > > > > > > (there's
> > > > > > > > > > > *a
> > > > > > > > > > > lot*
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > nodes that get created).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I've got this EPScript addition to limit the
> > > > > > > > > > > authors
> > > > > > > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > > > > > citation
> > > > > > > > > > > (it's not perfect - I should have used a couple
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > phrases in
> > > > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > > - if I was going to share it formally).
> > > > > > > > > > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?u
> > > > > > > > > > > rl=h
> > > > > > > > > > > ttps
> > > > > > > > > > > %3A%
> > > > > > > > > > > 2F%2
> > > > > > > > > > > Fgist.github.com%2Fjesusbagpuss%2Ffbec13d9986fba8
> > > > > > > > > > > e93b
> > > > > > > > > > > 56ae
> > > > > > > > > > > 5ba3
> > > > > > > > > > > 4c1&
> > > > > > > > > > > amp;data=01%7C01%7Cdrn%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C17a35c
> > > > > > > > > > > 5698
> > > > > > > > > > > f246
> > > > > > > > > > > 85c2
> > > > > > > > > > > b408
> > > > > > > > > > > d6da0bc70f%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0
> > > > > > > > > > > &amp
> > > > > > > > > > > ;sda
> > > > > > > > > > > ta=l
> > > > > > > > > > > 7wL8
> > > > > > > > > > > BnRgf8EA7E3SxuGBraA1Y%2BjALC8VfrCLI2H4Mc%3D&amp;r
> > > > > > > > > > > eser
> > > > > > > > > > > ved=
> > > > > > > > > > > 0
> > > > > > > > > > > 64
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On our summary page we also have the full author
> > > > > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > > > > displayed.
> > > > > > > > > > > For us, the issue we're concerned about is that
> > > > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > paper with loads of authors, if someone editing
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > item
> > > > > > > > > > > visits a
> > > > > > > > > > > workflow stage with the authors on it, it takes
> > > > > > > > > > > *ages* to
> > > > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > anything.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Our repo staff want to retain the complete author
> > > > > > > > > > > list -
> > > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > > > > continue looking down the 'improved input
> > > > > > > > > > > methods'
> > > > > > > > > > > path
> > > > > > > > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > 'truncate from source' option.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk
> > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:eprints-
> > > > > > > > > > > tech-
> > > > > > > > > > > bou
> > > > > > > > > > > nces@ecs.soton.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
> > > > > > > > > > > martin.braendle---
> > > > > > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > > > > Eprints-
> > > > > > > > > > > tech
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 16 May 2019 14:36
> > > > > > > > > > > To: John Salter <J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk>
> > > > > > > > > > > Cc: eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [EP-tech] Antwort: RE: Hyperauthorship
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > we thought of limiting the rendering, too.
> > > > > > > > > > > However,
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > case,
> > > > > > > > > > > the database has to deliver the author records
> > > > > > > > > > > before
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > limit
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > applied, which involves a performance penalty.
> > > > > > > > > > > Anyone
> > > > > > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > deal with a 2000 author item in EPrints can tell
> > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > this is
> > > > > > > > > > > like.
> > > > > > > > > > > That's why we decided to limit on input already.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "John Salter" ---16.05.2019 14:36:13---Hi Martin,
> > > > > > > > > > > Interesting
> > > > > > > > > > > approach. The records I'm, looking at all come
> > > > > > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > > > > Symplectic
> > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > Pure - and w
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Von: "John Salter" <J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk>
> > > > > > > > > > > An: "martin.braendle@id.uzh.ch" <martin.braendle@
> > > > > > > > > > > id.u
> > > > > > > > > > > zh.c
> > > > > > > > > > > h>,
> > > > > > > > > > > "eprin
> > > > > > > > > > > ts-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.
> > > > > > > > > > > ac.u
> > > > > > > > > > > k>
> > > > > > > > > > > Datum: 16.05.2019 14:36
> > > > > > > > > > > Betreff: RE: [EP-tech] Hyperauthorship
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Martin,
> > > > > > > > > > > Interesting approach. The records I'm, looking at
> > > > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > come
> > > > > > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > > > > Symplectic or Pure - and we could implement some
> > > > > > > > > > > form
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > limit to
> > > > > > > > > > > the number of authors - and retain any that are
> > > > > > > > > > > 'resolved'
> > > > > > > > > > > (local)
> > > > > > > > > > > authors.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I was thinking of changing the default input
> > > > > > > > > > > rendering
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > creator field along these lines:
> > > > > > > > > > > If there are < LIMIT authors, render input as
> > > > > > > > > > > currently
> > > > > > > > > > > exists
> > > > > > > > > > > If there are > LIMIT authors, render a static
> > > > > > > > > > > list of
> > > > > > > > > > > them,
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > enhance with javascript to allow editing of
> > > > > > > > > > > specific
> > > > > > > > > > > entries
> > > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > > re-
> > > > > > > > > > > ordering / searching filtering the list.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > This could even be deployed as a separate
> > > > > > > > > > > workflow
> > > > > > > > > > > stage
> > > > > > > > > > > (which
> > > > > > > > > > > only appears when there are > LIMIT authors).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'll have to see what people here think about
> > > > > > > > > > > limiting
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > author
> > > > > > > > > > > list on the way in to EPrints - that sounds like
> > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > > > place
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > be…
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: martin.braendle@id.uzh.ch
> > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:martin.braend
> > > > > > > > > > > le@i
> > > > > > > > > > > d.uz
> > > > > > > > > > > h.ch
> > > > > > > > > > > ]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 16 May 2019 13:22
> > > > > > > > > > > To: eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk; John Salter
> > > > > > > > > > > <J.Salt
> > > > > > > > > > > er@l
> > > > > > > > > > > eeds
> > > > > > > > > > > .ac.
> > > > > > > > > > > uk
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [EP-tech] Hyperauthorship
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi John,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > we have a lot of high energy physics or
> > > > > > > > > > > biomedical
> > > > > > > > > > > articles
> > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > hundreds or thousands of authors. Usually, those
> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > submitted
> > > > > > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > > > > CrossRef or PubMed import.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > We have adapted the corresponding import plugins
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > limit
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > number of authors by a configurable limit (in our
> > > > > > > > > > > case
> > > > > > > > > > > 30).
> > > > > > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > limit is exceeded, "et al" is added as
> > > > > > > > > > > the  ($limit+1)th
> > > > > > > > > > > author,
> > > > > > > > > > > the remaining authors are not imported and a
> > > > > > > > > > > warning
> > > > > > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > issued. Submitters are then still free to add the
> > > > > > > > > > > remaining
> > > > > > > > > > > UZH
> > > > > > > > > > > authors manually and use et al for authors
> > > > > > > > > > > outside of
> > > > > > > > > > > UZH.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Instead of the DOI plugin, we have developed a
> > > > > > > > > > > CrossRef
> > > > > > > > > > > plugin
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > uses the CrossRef REST API . It implements the
> > > > > > > > > > > author
> > > > > > > > > > > limitation
> > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > well. We decided to go with the CrossRef REST API
> > > > > > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > > > > funder
> > > > > > > > > > > information can be imported from there.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Martin Brändle
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> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "John Salter via Eprints-tech" ---16.05.2019
> > > > > > > > > > > 14:00:41---
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > Has
> > > > > > > > > > > anyone done any work on making the EPrints
> > > > > > > > > > > workflow a
> > > > > > > > > > > bit
> > > > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > sensible when a paper has man
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Von: "John Salter via Eprints-tech" <eprints-tech
> > > > > > > > > > > @ecs
> > > > > > > > > > > .sot
> > > > > > > > > > > on.a
> > > > > > > > > > > c.uk
> > > > > > > > > > > An: "'eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk'" <eprints-tec
> > > > > > > > > > > h@ec
> > > > > > > > > > > s.so
> > > > > > > > > > > ton.
> > > > > > > > > > > ac.u
> > > > > > > > > > > k>
> > > > > > > > > > > Datum: 16.05.2019 14:00
> > > > > > > > > > > Betreff: [EP-tech] Hyperauthorship
> > > > > > > > > > > Gesendet von: <eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.
> > > > > > > > > > > uk>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone done any work on making the EPrints
> > > > > > > > > > > workflow a
> > > > > > > > > > > bit
> > > > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > sensible when a paper has many authors (hundreds
> > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > thousands)?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > John Salter
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